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		<title>Anttenna: Mobile Location Aware Craigslist</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 13:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So it looks like some ex Microsoft Advertising guys are in the process of launching a location aware, real time, classified ads type of application by the name of Anttenna… think of it as a mobile location aware Craigslist. It doesn’t seem to be fully up and functioning here in NYC yet, but you can [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it looks like some ex Microsoft Advertising guys are in the process of launching a location aware, real time, classified ads type of application by the name of <a href="http://www.anttenna.com/" target="_blank">Anttenna</a>… think of it as a mobile location aware Craigslist. It doesn’t seem to be fully up and functioning here in NYC yet, but you can still get it and play with it to get the gist… or maybe it’s already fully up and running wherever you live.</p>
<p>Take all the simplicity and randomness of posting stuff you have or want to <a href="http://www.craigslist.org/" target="_blank">Craigslist</a>and add some only-for-mobile features like filters based on proximity, 140 character limits on descriptions, and quick chat to check availability or coordinate for meeting up&#8230; and that&#8217;s pretty much Anttenna.</p>
<p>From my short experience with the app there is still a fair amount of work to be done <span id="more-615"></span>to make the service a heck of a lot more user friendly&#8230;  like the somewhat unfriendly &#8220;Supply Chain&#8221; and &#8220;Demand Chain&#8221; terminology used to describe whether it something I have or something I want. The main page of listings defaults to stuff available nearby, and the list is full of the randomness you might expect with things ranging from a downright spamish offer for $200 rebate on blinds or a queens air conditioner installation company offering&#8230; and just a ton of nearby real estate listings with super short descriptions of apartments available for rent.</p>
<p>There is of course a way to filter just what you&#8217;re looking for by a variety of factors such as location and category by using the you guessed it &#8216;filter&#8217; button. Categories include a long list ranging from straightforward things like books and furniture to less straightforward thingslike &#8220;items for rent&#8221;, &#8220;real time dating&#8221; and &#8216;rouse-around&#8221; (whatever the heck that may be).  But I think they&#8217;ll need to design the discovery process a bit better so it doesn&#8217;t take seven clicks to drill down into a category.</p>
<p>In theory the application makes perfect sense&#8230; connect the nearby people who want stuff with the nearby people that have stuff, keeping it simple for the mobile device experience yet keeping the power of filters, and added tools such as maps and communications to help improve the process.</p>
<p>Now comes the tricky part of how you take something that makes all the sense in the world in theory and get people to get the app, and post the availabilities of their rouse arounds en mass. </p>
<p>Many of the things happening in the LBS space right now have a foundation in something that was successful on the web, with a mobile and location aware reinvention of a proven formula. That seems to be the case here with Anttenna as the mobile LBS equivalent of Craigslist, and we&#8217;ve seen it before particularly with efforts to re invent the social networking experience in a similar light via players like Loopt and Brightkite and many others. Ultimately I wonder how successful these can ever be.  As new and exciting as mobile location aware services on smart phones are, the total number of folks available to use the services is well below that of the web when services like Craigslist began to flourish online, which gives many of the web leaders in their space ample time to play catch up.</p>
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		<title>Metaplaces: Mobile Social Networks or as they would say in California, Mobile Social Graphs</title>
		<link>http://www.locationawhere.com/23/09/2009/conferences/metaplaces-mobile-social-networks-or-as</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So there was a whole session yesterday focusing on the location based social networks and essentially how the hell they’re going to make any money. I am not sure why folks expect that this has been figured out on the mobile side of things when the 800lb gorilla’s in the web world is still just [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So there was a whole session yesterday focusing on the location based social networks and essentially how the hell they’re going to make any money. I am not sure why folks expect that this has been figured out on the mobile side of things when the 800lb gorilla’s in the web world is still just figuring things out there, but alas. On a related note, it’s worth checking out the breakdown of how Facebook currently makes money today from an <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/breaking-down-facebooks-revenues-2009-7">interesting post from SAI</a>.</p>
<p>While there were few direct answers here, the read between the lines answer seemed to be that &#8220;we’re not sure but we’re experimenting with a bunch of different things&#8221;… premium services add-on’s seemed to be a popular option. But it was also clear <span class="fullpost">that regular old banner ads just didn’t seem to be cutting it, bringing in maybe just a handful of dimes per thousand… which when combined with a respectable, but not overwhelming, audience of a few hundred thousand users, wouldn’t amount to much. One of the speakers did throw out that with some of the geo targeting qualifiers, they saw CPMs jump into the few dollars range. Overall it sounded like some of the core economics around the costs of location dips and maps made it challenging to make it work on the pure low network advertising cpm’s model, so CPMs needed to make it into the dollars to make it work. </span></p>
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I was particularly impressed by Rob Lawson’s presentation on behalf of <a href="http://brightkite.com/">BrightKite</a> which earlier this year <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/07/mobile-socializing-limbo-merges-with-brightkite-and-announces-9-million-funding-round/">merged with Limbo</a>. In the world of digital advertising, it wasn’t necessarily that what they were doing was amazingly original, but you got the feeling that they understand the advertising world and they seemed to be doing the basic blocking and tackling to move ahead… first they combined two strong companies to get enough audience to make it worthwhile for advertisers to notice, then they hired five dedicated sales guys who either already got it or were trained to understand the space and what makes it unique.</span></div>
<div><span class="fullpost">They showed off a lot of ‘full screen’ sight sound and motion ads, including a cool imitative with <a href="http://layar.com/">Layar</a> which overlays data with the phone’s camera, and tied ads to clever targeting which location enables… I loved different executions tied to the weather in the area where the mobile users was located. It’s quite apparent that they’ve done this before and it seems to be working with a reported six figures a month in revenue. It sure is nice to have a big pot of VC money!</span></div>
<p><span class="fullpost">The moderator of the panel Claudio Schapsis keeps a <a href="http://bdnooz.com/lbsn-location-based-social-networking-links/">running tab on all the new location based social networks popping up</a>, and its getting to be quite long these days. Not surprising some of these guys are coming to the realization that it will become tougher and tougher to compete and grow as a stand alone consumer destination, and are instead switching gears to help bring the goodness of location awareness to people who already have large existing networks.</p>
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